Czarny Las Ewangelisty metryks

Pozdrawiam,

Szukam zapisów Czarny Las Ewangelisty. W Genbaza pliki mają tylko rekordy 1846-1852.

Czy ktoś wie, czy są tam książki dla wcześniejszych lat?

Dziękuję


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Greetings,

I am looking for records of Czarny Las Evangelist. In Genbaza files only have records 1846-1852.

Does anyone know if there are there books for earlier years?

Thank you

Hello,

Earlier books does not exist because this parish was established in 1846 - at the begining as a part of Wieluń parish (filiał parafii ewangelickiej w Wieluniu).
Before 1846 You have to search in catholic parish of Biała or evangelic parish of Wieluń.
Most of evidence was made in Biała as it is closer to Czarny Las.
Please remember that first name of Czarny Las was Hilsbach - records earlier than made in 1821 will use such name.

Best regards,
Tomek

Thank you Tomasz!

I thought that they were there, but didn't find who I was looking for. I will search for more years, she might have lied about her age when she married.

I have gone back to 1824 and found birth of her father Jan Ludwig Holler

I don`t know who was a person You was searching for but I have many Hollers from Czarny Las as my ancestors.

Hi Tomasz,

We are probably related if you have Hollers from Czarny Las also.

My husband's great great grandmother was Krystyna Holler who married Filip Gertner/Getner in 1872, age 23. Their daughter Paulina Gertner married Pawel Brymora. Pawel's son Zygmunt was my husband's grandfather.

According to the 1871 marriage record, (attachment) Krystyna's father was Ludwig Holler and matki Katarzyna Born. It says she was 23, which means that her birth was around 1848/49.

I have found Krystyna's brothers and sisters:
Konrad born 1850 (czarny las books)
Wilheim died 1855 age 2 (have not found birth) (Death in pabianice EW books)
Paulina born 1858. Married Jan Leske 1882. Died 1899. (birth in pabianice EW books)
Julianna Malgorzata born 1862, died 1864 (birth in pabianice EW books)

I am looking for two records:
1. birth of Krystyna
2. marriage of Ludwig (or Jan Ludwig) to Katarzyna Born.

I have searched Czarny Las books (every page) found sisters and brothers but no Krystyna.
I have searched Aleksandrow indexes 1845-1854
I have searched catholic books Biala Gorna 1841-1857
Right now going through Biala books taking notes. Found Jan Ludwig Birth in 1824. The earliest reference to Holler I found so far was 1806 Jakob Holler marriage.

I think there might have been two men Jan Ludwig Holler, one 3 years older than the other. One Jan Ludwig married Anna Mandel 1847, syn Filip i Anna Maria Brude.

I have also been trying to learn about weavers coming from germany, as Jan Ludwig was a weaver, Krystyna's husband Filip Getner was a weaver, and her sister Julianna's husband Jan Leske was also a weaver. Found article in Czestochowa Museum Rocznik 2011 - will translate and read

I know that it is possible that Jan Ludwig and Katarzyna Born were married her the parish Katarzyna came from. Her death record (attached) says she is from Warszowice. I looked in familysearch books for Dwarszowice Kolonii however big gaps in the books there. Are there other books I should look for her?

Hello Caroline,

a little tip - there is a very useful file called "miejscowosci-i-parafie" for picking up from the resources (zasoby).
There is said:
MIEJSCOWOŚĆ Parafia dekanat Diecezja
Warszawice Warszawice garwoliński lubelska
Unfortunately that is all I can find right now.

Best regards,
Ireneusz